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GBA
01-26-2005, 12:36 PM
Can't even smoke outside now.
Let's hear it for tolerance!
:roll:


SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Legislators in San Francisco city voted to ban smoking in public parks on Tuesday, becoming the first major American city to embrace such an expansive ban on tobacco use.


"This is the first one that includes all the parks and recreational centers in a county," said Michela Alioto-Pier, a city legislator who sponsored the proposed ban. It needs the approval of Mayor Gavin Newsom to become law.

Several smaller California cities have already prohibited smoking in city parks, including Santa Monica and Beverly Hills, as well as the central Californian city of Fresno. A few cities outside California have limited smoking bans in local parks.

"It is a danger to our small children and not a particularly good example for them either," Alioto-Pier said in an interview. Parks are "an area unfortunately where there is a lot of litter and cigarette butts make up four times as much litter as any thing else out there. It is a detriment to the environment. It takes 10-12 years for a cigarette butt to biodegrade, and the toxins go into the ground water."

State legislators are also considering banning smoking along California's fabled beaches, although Los Angeles and other areas have already barred smoking at piers and beaches.

The city legislature voted 8-3 to approve the ban.

Banning smoking in parks still falls short of a new prohibition in the Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan, which last month banned smoking everywhere in public.

Asked if San Francisco might one day move in that direction, Alioto-Pier said: "I think that if any city in the country is a city to ban smoking on sidewalks and stoops it would probably be San Francisco, but we will just have to wait and see."

Lou Cypher
01-26-2005, 11:24 PM
I'll be sure to smoke a joint in Golden Gate Park this weekend in honor of this decision.

exitwound
01-27-2005, 01:23 AM
I'll be sure to smoke a joint in Golden Gate Park this weekend in honor of this decision.

Damn straight.....

Oh, did you hear about the huge grow op that was busted over on the Sunset?

I always knew, walking down those cute little side streets that probably one in four or one in five had at least some reefer growing behind their facades, but this one sounded rather over the top and poorly executed.

You'd think of all the places in the world, SF growers could at least not cause stupid little electrical fires and announce their excessive grow op to the world :roll:

clavin42
01-27-2005, 09:24 AM
They banned smoking in bars here. It is impossible to enforce, so all the bars allow smoking anyways.

Stupid ny....

exitwound
01-27-2005, 01:15 PM
They banned smoking in bars here. It is impossible to enforce, so all the bars allow smoking anyways.

Stupid ny....

We've had smoking banned in bars for about a year now up here in Maine, and it's surprising....the law is followed religiously. It's made the bars around here habitable for a lot of people who couldn't handle the air in them before, but further away from the city I suspect they have a lot more disdain for the whole thing.

EbolaMonkey
01-27-2005, 05:12 PM
They banned smoking in bars here. It is impossible to enforce, so all the bars allow smoking anyways.

Stupid ny....

That's the way it was here in my hometown for a while. Until the city started beefing up the enforcements. Light up in a bar now and you'll get your ass thrown out. :evil:

Searchalot
01-27-2005, 06:23 PM
"They" are trying to ban smoking in bars for some time now, but public opinion is strongly against. Even among the non-smokers.
It would become "dull" in bars and cafes, with all those goat-hair-socks-people, sippin' their tea and cappuchino's for hours. Forgetting the tip and complaining about the music being too loud.
Costing our already beaten economy even more jobs.

No, instead we rather choke eachother to death and die with a cough. And that's fine by me, I used to work in bars and cafes, and I'm a smoker.

:shock:

THX1138
01-29-2005, 01:08 PM
I'll be sure to smoke a joint in Golden Gate Park this weekend in honor of this decision.


Lou, I fear for your safety.

Because of the severe budget crunch the police have orders to enforce this ban and write citations as fast as possible.

It would be so easy to try resist this citation and being stoned out of your gourd your timing would be slightly off and some little Police chick would beat you to the ground with her big stick.

Be careful man, they are watching everywhere...

Freewwwebflyer
01-29-2005, 09:51 PM
How many laws does a country pass before it's not considered a "free" country anymore? :roll:

Searchalot
01-29-2005, 11:22 PM
How many laws does a country pass before it's not considered a "free" country anymore? :roll:

That's the point most "Westerners" have to reconcider, before they give up their liberties and let someone else decide what's best for them.

:?

undertaker
01-30-2005, 02:17 PM
What next? Banning consumption of alchohol in bars?
Look at the lives to be saved!

Orson

exitwound
01-30-2005, 03:06 PM
What next? Banning consumption of alchohol in bars?
Look at the lives to be saved!

Orson

gotta love it, eh? :roll: :?

Fat Tone
01-31-2005, 12:41 PM
Are they banning pole smoking or cigarrette and cigar smoking ??