can you help me with this piece of trash?

[dodo34342000]

whats the best firewall for windows 2000with no SPs and what is the alternate of msconfig of xp in windows 2000

[Bob Lawblaw]

whats the best firewall for windows 2000with no SPs and what is the alternate of msconfig of xp in windows 2000

Windows 2000 OS or server? If it's just the operating system (Pro), Zone Alarm (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en&lid=nav_za) will work.

MS Config is available here (http://www.techadvice.com/win2000/m/msconfig_w2k.htm).

[dodo34342000]

Windows 2000 OS or server? If it's just the operating system (Pro), Zone Alarm (http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/catalog/products/sku_list_za.jsp?dc=12bms&ctry=US&lang=en&lid=nav_za) will work.

MS Config is available here (http://www.techadvice.com/win2000/m/msconfig_w2k.htm).
i dont like zone alarm it wants me to install the new v and i dont want any external files for msconfig there must be another way

[Bob Lawblaw]

i dont like zone alarm it wants me to install the new v and i dont want any external files for msconfig there must be another way There are lots of firewalls available, I chose one with a good reputation and track record. By all means - do a Google search and take your pick.

And the only surefire way around the MSConfig file that I'm aware of is to edit your registry. Sometimes you can get lucky and find it in the services, but most programs don't install themselves to start up as services.

[Winter]

There are lots of firewalls available, I chose one with a good reputation and track record. By all means - do a Google search and take your pick.

And the only surefire way around the MSConfig file that I'm aware of is to edit your registry. Sometimes you can get lucky and find it in the services, but most programs don't install themselves to start up as services.Hiya nutty! Hey is Norton considered a fire wall?

[Bob Lawblaw]

Hiya nutty! Hey is Norton considered a fire wall? Hi Winter. :)

Norton has a firewall product, but I hate all Norton (Symantec) products. I think they bog the computer down, and are damn near impossible to uninstall.

[exitwound]

My suggestion would be to skip software firewalls entirely, and get yourself a good broadband router such as the Linksys WRT54GL. That will let you run powerful custom firmware like DD-WRT (which I use on my WRT54G v2.2) which includes a flexible and secure SPI Firewall plus the extra protection of a NAT router on which you can open only the ports you absolutely need.

Plus, running a single firewall on your router, instead of one on each of your computers, greatly simplifies things and keeps your firewall separate from your computer software. Which is handy for debugging and avoiding problems like what you describe, dodo!

Hope this helps :-)

[Winter]

Hi Winter. :)

Norton has a firewall product, but I hate all Norton (Symantec) products. I think they bog the computer down, and are damn near impossible to uninstall.I didn't know what to install so I just that as it kind of came with my computer when I got it last year. It bothers me though.

If someone came to my house and showed me this stuff only once then I would be all set. I don't like reading instructions and don't have the patience for any of it.

[Bob Lawblaw]

My suggestion would be to skip software firewalls entirely, and get yourself a good broadband router such as the Linksys WRT54GL. That will let you run powerful custom firmware like DD-WRT (which I use on my WRT54G v2.2) which includes a flexible and secure SPI Firewall plus the extra protection of a NAT router on which you can open only the ports you absolutely need.

Plus, running a single firewall on your router, instead of one on each of your computers, greatly simplifies things and keeps your firewall separate from your computer software. Which is handy for debugging and avoiding problems like what you describe, dodo!

Hope this helps :-) I'm starting to run both - hardware and software. I started this because somehow somebody got through to my server at home and infected it with popups. It may have happened because I got a few ports open for remote administration and four game servers. Whatever the reason, I got to reading about it and found that hardware firewalls are hackable... and that using software as a backup is a good idea. So now I do.

[Gaius Millhelm]

"Hardware" firewalls and SW firewalls are the same thing. They just run on differen types of (embedded vs. desktop) computers.

[Bob Lawblaw]

True, but the problem I've heard about the hardware types is that if somebody's using... say a Linksys BEFSR41... without changing the default settings, almost anyone can look them up on the internet and figure a way past them. The first thing I do is change the name and password, then the administration port... but many (if not most) people don't. In fact, my experience with firewall/routers is that each company uses the same defaults over and over, on all of their models. So all you gotta do is try one for Linksys, then one for D-link, then one for netgear, etc.

[dodo34342000]

My suggestion would be to skip software firewalls entirely, and get yourself a good broadband router such as the Linksys WRT54GL. That will let you run powerful custom firmware like DD-WRT (which I use on my WRT54G v2.2) which includes a flexible and secure SPI Firewall plus the extra protection of a NAT router on which you can open only the ports you absolutely need.

Plus, running a single firewall on your router, instead of one on each of your computers, greatly simplifies things and keeps your firewall separate from your computer software. Which is handy for debugging and avoiding problems like what you describe, dodo!

Hope this helps :-)
i think i am talking about windows 2000 on a personal puter

[Bob Lawblaw]

i think i am talking about windows 2000 on a personal puter Hardware firewalls are independent of the computer and operating system ... they're a box that plugs in between your computer and the internet (modem).

[dodo34342000]

Hardware firewalls are independent of the computer and operating system ... they're a box that plugs in between your computer and the internet (modem).
ouff I got zA but I dont like it whatever

[exitwound]

Zone Alarm does get the job done. I'm just glad that I use Macs and a Linksys router/base station so that I can either use the built-in BSD-UNIX firewall, or the centralize firewall on my router.

Normally, though, because I have no security concerns and my home machines are behind a NAT router anyway (which prevents incoming connections to any ports other than those I specify), I disable even the router firewall because I want my router to perform as fast as possible.

[Badgirl]

Hi Winter. :)

Norton has a firewall product, but I hate all Norton (Symantec) products. I think they bog the computer down, and are damn near impossible to uninstall.

I absolutely hate Symantec products. I've had terrible trouble trying to remove them from my son's pc. I wanted to install McAfee which has worked perfectly well for me on my own computer but I can't until I find out how to completely remove every bit of the Norton crap. Grrrrrrr :hmmmm:

[Bob Lawblaw]

I absolutely hate Symantec products. I've had terrible trouble trying to remove them from my son's pc. I wanted to install McAfee which has worked perfectly well for me on my own computer but I can't until I find out how to completely remove every bit of the Norton crap. Grrrrrrr :hmmmm:

The only way I've found to totally get rid of Norton is to either use an uninstaller program, or manually go through the registry.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/nutsak/Anigifs/pi_careless.gif

[Badgirl]

The only way I've found to totally get rid of Norton is to either use an uninstaller program, or manually go through the registry.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/nutsak/Anigifs/pi_careless.gif
ok I didn't know that I could use an uninstaller program! I'll try a google on one later. I've looked in the registry and the tendrils of Norton seem to be absolutely everywhere...

NEVER again lol...Norton sux


speaking of routers earlier...my D-Link has been a brilliant buy :)

[Bob Lawblaw]

ok I didn't know that I could use an uninstaller program! I'll try a google on one later. I've looked in the registry and the tendrils of Norton seem to be absolutely everywhere...

NEVER again lol...Norton sux


speaking of routers earlier...my D-Link has been a brilliant buy :) Here's (http://www.ursoftware.com/) one that I've had good luck with, and it's free for a month (trial). Here's (http://www.download.com/Your-Uninstaller-2004/3000-2096_4-10143715.html) the review on it.


Yeah, I'm using about 5 different types of D-Links right now, they're working great. Especially the firewall/routers. I couldn't find any other brand that could let as many games through at a time as D-link does (for my game servers).

[Badgirl]

Here's (http://www.ursoftware.com/) one that I've had good luck with, and it's free for a month (trial). Here's (http://www.download.com/Your-Uninstaller-2004/3000-2096_4-10143715.html) the review on it.


Yeah, I'm using about 5 different types of D-Links right now, they're working great. Especially the firewall/routers. I couldn't find any other brand that could let as many games through at a time as D-link does (for my game servers).

Thank you very much for that Nutsak...I'll give it a go at the weekend :)

The other great thing about D-Link is their customer support/helpline. I didn't know how to set up the router properly but when I gave them a call (freefone) they were as patient and polite as can be until I had it working like a dream.

[Bob Lawblaw]

I didn't know that about them... good to hear. :)

[thirsty]

Out of all the software firewalls I've used, Sygate's the one I keep going back to, there is a free version, look here (http://www.tucows.com/preview/213160), don't go to the Sygate site, they've been purchased by Symantec and you end in a loop of $ products.

[Bob Lawblaw]

Out of all the software firewalls I've used, Sygate's the one I keep going back to, there is a free version, look here (http://www.tucows.com/preview/213160), don't go to the Sygate site, they've been purchased by Symantec and you end in a loop of $ products. Great link, thanks. :)

Do you know of a software firewall that works on Windows Server 2000? My home sever got hit with multiple pop ups and spyware, and gradually deteriorated to where I'm gonna reformat and start over. I don't know how they got in... I never use that machine to surf the web, and it's behind a hardware firewall. They either got in by exploiting one of my open game ports (I run four different game servers on it), or somebody (a guest) in the house did surf the web on it - of course, nobody will admit that.

I've found products that clean it up after the fact, but nothing to prevent... without spending hundreds of dollars... and I really don't want to use a Symantec product, if possible.

[Badgirl]

Great link, thanks. :)

Do you know of a software firewall that works on Windows Server 2000? My home sever got hit with multiple pop ups and spyware, and gradually deteriorated to where I'm gonna reformat and start over. I don't know how they got in... I never use that machine to surf the web, and it's behind a hardware firewall. They either got in by exploiting one of my open game ports (I run four different game servers on it), or somebody (a guest) in the house did surf the web on it - of course, nobody will admit that.

I've found products that clean it up after the fact, but nothing to prevent... without spending hundreds of dollars... and I really don't want to use a Symantec product, if possible.
here you go nutsak...the answer to all our pc problems :)

http://i1.tinypic.com/xpngy9.jpg

[Bob Lawblaw]

here you go nutsak...the answer to all our pc problems :)

http://i1.tinypic.com/xpngy9.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/nutsak/Anigifs/24.gif

[thirsty]

Great link, thanks. :)

Do you know of a software firewall that works on Windows Server 2000? My home sever got hit with multiple pop ups and spyware, and gradually deteriorated to where I'm gonna reformat and start over. I don't know how they got in... I never use that machine to surf the web, and it's behind a hardware firewall. They either got in by exploiting one of my open game ports (I run four different game servers on it), or somebody (a guest) in the house did surf the web on it - of course, nobody will admit that.

I've found products that clean it up after the fact, but nothing to prevent... without spending hundreds of dollars... and I really don't want to use a Symantec product, if possible.

One reason I'm using sygate, as it was, was not only because of how good I find it, but because I'm running server 2003, It's not a resource hog and only has a small footprint. Kerio has good reviews but won't run on servers, symantec bought sygate but left the firewall alone.
Your spyware could have found it's way into your pc by installing software, Ashampoo is one that likes to dump it's rubbish among others.

[Bob Lawblaw]

One reason I'm using sygate, as it was, was not only because of how good I find it, but because I'm running server 2003, It's not a resource hog and only has a small footprint. Kerio has good reviews but won't run on servers, symantec bought sygate but left the firewall alone.
Your spyware could have found it's way into your pc by installing software, Ashampoo is one that likes to dump it's rubbish among others. I don't think so, I was very careful about installing anything on that server. All I had on it were those four games and a backup utility GRBackPro (http://www.grsoftware.net/) - maybe it had the stuff in it? I think that the stepson got on the computer and used it for browsing... but of course, he won't admit it.

[Winter]

I don't think so, I was very careful about installing anything on that server. All I had on it were those four games and a backup utility GRBackPro (http://www.grsoftware.net/) - maybe it had the stuff in it? I think that the stepson got on the computer and used it for browsing... but of course, he won't admit it.Hiya nutster!
:hellowave:

[Bob Lawblaw]

Hiya nutster!
:hellowave: Hiya Winter! :)

[Winter]

Hiya Winter! :)Whatup?

[Bob Lawblaw]

Whatup? nuttin.


Wassup wid you?

[Winter]

nuttin.


Wassup wid you?Same old crap-o-la! :clap:

[exitwound]

Often times, a hardware router like the Linksys WRT54GL costs the same or less than a software firewall, it covers as many machines as you could possibly ever have, you only have to configure it once, it frees your computer up to run at its best without wasting resources on networking/firewall tasks, and often the security provided by a hardware router is superior to what you get out of a lot of these software "firewalls" or other security applications.

The best part about these hardware routers is that you can get free, community-developed, daily-updated software for them. With everything you could want, then some, a bag of chips and a kitchen sink. These routers are really stripped-down Linux-UNIX computers with some fancy network hardware attached, more performance that you'd get out of a high-end PC just a few years ago, and often cost less than $50 even before rebates which are everywhere!