Marijuana

[Anonymous]

I'd rant, but I'm too lazy (stoned) 8)

[Gaius Millhelm]

I'd rant, but I'm too lazy (stoned) 8)

You are so pathetic Rogue :roll:

[Gaius Millhelm]

Do you intend to start any serious discussion? Because this is a very important topic!

[Gaius Millhelm]

After all, we have three med MJ patients just in our little Dojo hangout alone!

You are most often the guy to talk about this but even I, one of the more conservative of the bunch think that prohibition is stupid.

[cranius]

http://overgrow.com/

Everything you ever needed to know!

[roguestar]

http://overgrow.com/

Everything you ever needed to know!

Good site!

I also like http://smokedot.org/

[roguestar]

For those that don't know, I have a rare MS-like protein disease which causes me to have severe spasms and nerve/muscle problems. I have a california medical mj card from a respected doctor and consume a fairly high daily dose of oral/vaporized cannabis extracts to help control my symptoms.

This allows me to cut way down on the nasty drugs that are normally prescribed for the spasms and the neurological symptoms, which in turn makes me healthier.

I almost never actually smoke the stuff.

You can find my posts about this on http://treatingyourself.com/, under a different name.

[Gaius Millhelm]

I was very anti-marijuana when I first met the Packet Dojo guys but over the years I have learned a lot and after meeting Rogue/seeing what he goes through every day, I couldnt dream of withhholding any useful medicine to people who need it.

I have even been tricked into getting high a couple times. Its not so bad :twisted:

[Funky Monkey]

I am no stranger to the Devil Weed but i am trying to get my lack of tolerance back so i am taking a break

still i never had any withdrawl or really any addicition just some tolerance after years and years of eating/vaporizing/smoking every day

[Benjamin Martin]

I would love to see all states leagalize Ganja for medicinal purposes. I haven't smoked the stuff in about 18 years but I can say that it is a wonderful muscle relaxer. Hell, the government should legalize it across the board and use the money to help lower the cost of health care. The fact that it's illegal isn't stopping anyone from using it anyway.

[exitwound]

I would love to see all states leagalize Ganja for medicinal purposes. I haven't smoked the stuff in about 18 years but I can say that it is a wonderful muscle relaxer. Hell, the government should legalize it across the board and use the money to help lower the cost of health care. The fact that it's illegal isn't stopping anyone from using it anyway.

Very true; last estimate I saw was 25-30% of all adults over 30 still consume marijuana in some form on an at least semi-regular basis, and upwards of 40% of Americans in general could be considered "potheads."

The number of people who've at least tried it is well over 50%, IIRC....

Although I don't get stoned on a regular basis anymore, I still use MJ when I can get it to help relieve the chronic pain from my old MTB racing injuries and also to help stop the nasty muscle spasms they cause in my pelvic region....it's extremely effective for both things, and helps me get through my periods of severe pain without resorting to opiates.

I don't really smoke it anymore because of the health drawbacks, but rather usually use a vaporizer (heat gun type, e.g. Vapor Brothers) and then make cannabis oil from the "seconds" that come out of the vape.

Put simply: prohibition is a moronic ideal in general, but in the specific case of cannabis it's downright outrageous, IMHO. Responsible use hurts nobody, including the user....and the benefits can be tremendous for those who have medical conditions.

[Benjamin Martin]

Can I still be a right-winger and have this opinion? 8)

[exitwound]

Can I still be a right-winger and have this opinion? 8)

Yes!

Surprisingly, it turns out that a number of Red states are supporting the medical MJ case that's currently before the Supreme Court -- they've filed briefs in support of the plaintiff!

After all, with numbers like 40, 50, 60%+ believing that marijuana prohibition is a bad idea and that it should be legalized at LEAST for reasonable medical cases....after the recent election, we *know* a good portion of those people have to be Reds! 8)

[GBA]

Can I still be a right-winger and have this opinion? 8)

OOOH !! OOOH !!

Me too !
:D

Had a friend who died of AIDS a year ago, they had him on marinol, MJ in pill form.
But he still prefered the good-old-fashioned joint.
He was allowed to purchase it too, small amounts, I think.

He told Ma(82 years old) to ask her Doc for some marinol, for her arthritis and cataracts.
She did . :D
But her Doc says no, we're not as liberal as Florida, I guess.

And yes, I think it should be legalized, used to smoke it, still do once a year or so.

BUT, you know damm well the DEA and other assorted agencies are just making too much money confiscating peoples homes, cars, etc. to stop now.

[exitwound]

Can I still be a right-winger and have this opinion? 8)

OOOH !! OOOH !!

Me too !
:D

Had a friend who died of AIDS a year ago, they had him on marinol, MJ in pill form.
But he still prefered the good-old-fashioned joint.
He was allowed to purchase it too, small amounts, I think.

He told Ma(82 years old) to ask her Doc for some marinol, for her arthritis and cataracts.
She did . :D
But her Doc says no, we're not as liberal as Florida, I guess.

And yes, I think it should be legalized, used to smoke it, still do once a year or so.

BUT, you know damm well the DEA and other assorted agencies are just making too much money confiscating peoples homes, cars, etc. to stop now.

All too true. And I don't even want to try to touch the issue of connections between the CIA and drug runners/arms smugglers over the years. FreyGrimrod is working to be our local expert and hopefully he'll be giving us some of his thoughts on the subject soon....

[exitwound]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/12/18/medical.marij uana.ap/index.html

Majority of Seniors support Medical Marijuana 8) :) 8)

[Funky Monkey]

bump :mrgreen:

[Nyar]

some people are fucked up much more heavily than others when they smoke pot. questions to ask yourself frankly are:

do i smoke it every day?

do i want to smoke it every day?

do i need to smoke it every day?

if i dont get it every day do i freak out and get bitchy?

does a life without smoking pot seem appealing?


you know where im going with it. i chose career over smoking weed in 96 and havent smoked since. i didnt think i would like it but making close to 100k is better than the 8 dollars an hour i would have been stuck with. ive seen bright people with a good future just dream it away because they feared the dreaded drug test more than they feared moving on with their lives and leaving pot behind them.

dont get me wrong....i LOVE the shit. it smells great and should be legal IMO.

[Funky Monkey]

i know several people who couldn't make $100K+ if it werent for marijuana, because it helps them with their health conditions. all of the people im talking about make five figures and work very hard even though they have to be stoned all the time not to be in agony :(

[roguestar]

of course, the people who you're talking about (some of whom i also know) didn't get that way by spending a lot on drugs; they grow their own medicine, that's pretty much it. always seems odd to me that some people would invade people's homes, throw them in jail for years just for that....

....but then im californian :roll: :lol: :mrgreen:

[GBA]

....but then im californian :roll: :lol: :mrgreen:

Playing on my Launchcast radio now.
:lol: :lol:

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